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Interview with Archbishop Jean-Louis
Tauran
Vatican Undersecretary for Relations with States
LAvvenire , Sept. 10, 2002
(translation by NCR)
Monsignor Tauran, at the distance of a year [from Sept. 11],
has some light returned?
That abominable action has raised a universal condemnation of
terrorism, it has incited jurists to better define terrorism, and it has
prompted those responsible for the worlds societies to examine the causes
of such inhuman violence. Moreover, both the encounter at Assisi of the past
Jan. 24, as well as the meeting Men and Religions at Palermo just a
few days ago, gave prominence to the idea that religion can never justify
terrorism and that all believers have a common duty: to disarm hate. Because a
good can always come from evil, I think that its very positive that these
blind and unspeakable acts of violence, which created so many victims and
afflicted so many families, have been unanimously condemned. In particular,
reading the declarations of so many bishops, I observe that prominence was very
much given to a fundamental truth, that all believers, and in particular Jews,
Christians and Muslims profess: human life is sacred, it comes from God, the
creator and author of everything, and only he has rights over it. Thus it was
proclaimed, and not only in the churches but a little bit everywhere, that all
violence is contrary to the laws of God, and that problems can only be resolved
with dialogue, law and love. Thus is built a world where people can live in
peace and justice: there is no other way.
Meanwhile, however, new clouds of war are now gathering over
Iraq. What is the position of the Holy See?
To always privilege dialogue; to never isolate a country or a
government, so that one can better call back to their duties those who have
violated the rules of international law. Obviously one cannot combat an evil
with another evil, adding evil to evil. If the international community, drawing
its inspiration from international law and in particular the resolutions of the
United Nations Security Council, were to judge that a recourse to force is
opportune and proportionate, it should happen within the framework of the
United Nations, after having weighed the consequences for the civilian
population of Iraq, not to mention the repercussions that it could have for the
countries of the region and world stability; if not, it would simply be the law
of the strongest that is imposed. One can legitimately ask if the type of
operation that is being considered is an adequate means for bringing true peace
to maturity.
Also the Middle East continues to be an open wound. According
to you, what are the base conditions for arriving at a stable peace?
First of all, that the arms fall silent. Then, that everyone
respect the other and that persons legitimate aspirations; that all apply
the rules of international law; that the Occupied Territories are evacuated;
and that a special internationally guaranteed statute be elaborated for
protecting the unique character of the holy sites of the three religions in
Jerusalem. The international community should then be more present on the
ground for helping the contenders to see one another and talk with one
another.
In this year the pope has insisted a great deal on condemnation
of terrorism and the refusal of every association between religion and acts of
violence. What effects have his teaching had in world public opinion?
I think that the numerous appeals of the pope in this sense have
had the great merit of helping everyone to understand that a theology of terror
cannot exist, that one cannot confuse some extremist groups that draw
inspiration from Islam with the true Muslims. So many initiatives and
declarations have repeated that there exists among Jews, Christians and Muslims
a solidarity in the faith that must a source of reconciliation for all
societies.
And the governments?
Many heads of state who have visited the Vatican have expressed
satisfaction because the position of the Vatican has avoided every confusion
and has managed to speak independently. Many in particular appreciated what the
pope had to say to the international community last Jan. 10: To kill in
the name of God is a blasphemy and a perversion of religion, and I want to
repeat this morning what I wrote in my message of Jan. 1. It is a
profanation of religion to proclaim oneself a terrorist in the name of God, to
kill and violate human beings in the name of God. Terrorist violence, in fact,
is contrary to the faith in God the creator of the human person, a God that
takes care of humanity and loves it.
Did Sept. 11 change the relationship between the Holy See and
the Islamic world?
I think that by now it is clear to all that struggling against
terrorism does not mean combat against Islam. The American bishops, who deal
with a vast Muslim community, affirmed this soon after Sept. 11. The pope and
his collaborators have repeated it on many occasions. In this regard I would
like to recall what His Holiness said to the representatives of the world of
culture in Kazakhstan on Sept. 24, 2001: I want to reaffirm the respect
of the Catholic church for Islam, authentic Islam: the Islam that prays, that
feel solidarity with those in need. Remembering the errors of the past, also
recent, all believers must unite their efforts so that God is never made
hostage to the ambitions of human beings. Hate, fanaticism and terrorism
profane the name of God and disfigure the authentic image of the human
person.
Finally, do you believe that the fight against terrorism, in
these 12 months, has been conducted effectively? Or is there something else to
do?
The important thing is that by now no responsible politician
worthy of the name and no religious leader can any longer justify terrorism, in
whatever part of the world one might want to do this work of death. This is, in
itself, a very important result. Certainly, the guilty must be punished and
placed in conditions in which they cannot do harm. But we must be attentive to
not confuse justice with vendetta, and to avoid that entire populations pay for
the cruelty of those responsible for the attacks. Much remains to be done. The
Holy Father recalled this last Saturday: we must combat the situations of
violence and inequalities among peoples, put an end to unresolved wars, and
inculcate in the young generations a culture of legality and of tolerance. The
mass media in particular must be attentive to not spreading images that lead to
distrust, hate, and abuse. Finally, the manner in which history and religion is
taught in school is of the highest importance: if we want that nothing should
be as it was before Sept. 11, it is indispensable to promote a culture of
reciprocal respect.
National Catholic Reporter, Posted September 18,
2002
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